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I'm Kishimoto Yume Root of Tsubaki Factory.
And I'm Yamagishi Riko of Tsubaki Factory.
Today, we're visiting Hotel Chinzan-sou Tokyo's Rujalda.
- Rujalda. - Rujalda.
- We're visiting Rujalda. - Yay!
What does that mean?
- What does it mean? - Yes.
We have some fancy dishes lined up in front of us.
- Yes. - This is an afternoon tea.
At the end of last year's "Let's go, Tsubaki Factory" show...
- I had the most announcements. - Yes, you did.
- During "Tsubaki Hour"... - Yes.
I was like a special guest.
They gave me a pair of afternoon tea tickets.
- They were available for about six months. - Yes.
I had a lot of trouble deciding.
- Like, I said I'd go with Saori. - Yes, you did.
- I said I'd go with my best friend in Kansai. - Yes, you did.
- I also said I'd go with my mom. - Yes, you did.
I thought about it.
But as soon as I got the tickets...
I decided to talk to you, Riko.
We announced that we'd graduate as a group in the fall.
So I thought I'd have an afternoon tea with you.
- I thought it'd be nice to talk about it. - What's with that character?
- I've invited you. - Thank you.
- It's my first afternoon tea. - Really?
- Yes. - You did it!
- It's my first time. - Really?
- It's unexpected. - I'm happy.
I've always wanted to go, but it's hard.
We've been together for about eight or nine years.
- But we haven't been paired up much. - It's unexpected, right?
- At work and stuff. - We haven't.
- So I'm happy. - I think we'll get more from now on.
- Yeah, for graduation. - What do we do?
- If we fall in love too soon... - What do we do?
- And today, we don't have any scripts. - We don't, we don't.
- Yeah. - We don't have any.
- Yeah, I was too motivated. - "We can do it, right?"
- But we haven't decided yet... - Ah!
- We haven't decided yet, so... - Please!
- Okay, I'll drink it.
- It's black tea. - What do we do? Like, really...
- It's early in the morning.
- It's about 9 AM.
- It's our first meal of the day. - It's breakfast.
- Breakfast? - Yeah.
- On the contrary, you know, it's rare.
- Yeah, there's no morning tea like this. - Yeah.
- Okay, I'll drink it. - What do we do?
- Huh? What? - What do we do?
- I'm sorry, but we don't have any manners or anything like that.
- Um... - Please don't write comments or anything like that.
- Please don't say things like that. - I'll stab you.
- Oh, you don't have to stab me, so... - Let's go while searching for it.
- What do we do? - Yeah, what?
- Is this okay? - Yeah, it's fine.
- Hey, but like, seriously...
- Isn't it amazing?
- It's been more than 10 years since we met.
- Yeah, since we were trainees.
- Yeah, since we met Yamagishi Paisen and Shimoto Yume no Kozou.
- But you know, Tokyo and Osaka used to be pretty separated. - Yeah.
- So even back then, I wasn't really...
- Oh, but you were often teased by your seniors in the dressing room.
- Yeah, but like, ever since I was in the Hanaporo Prohibited Zone...
- I've always been like a musical actor or something.
- Like, for a long time now. Probably.
- That might not change now. - Yeah.
Even now, when I'm with my seniors and stuff...
Basically, like...
- "Hey, I've got a story for you." - Yeah.
- That's like... - Ah!
Oh no! Oh no! I'm gonna get in trouble!
- Can I use my hand at school? - Oh, you can?
- Oh, you can?
- Oh, you talked to me about it? - Yeah.
- You're amazing. - No, like...
- You're such a nerd. - No, I don't watch that stuff.
- You shouldn't watch that stuff. - Yeah.
- It's become more class-like. - I see.
"Oh, I hope you don't mind," says the teacher.
- The teacher over there. - Yeah.
There's a teacher here today, too, right?
I hope you don't mind.
That's what the French say.
- Is that right? - Probably.
- I think it's right. - I think it's right.
- That's how you eat it.
- I think it's right. - Something like that.
Out of the HELLO! group...
Too bad.
Yeah! It's good!
It's good!
- You're an adult now. - It's good!
You're an adult now.
It's like... ham and...
anzo and...
green onions.
Wow, I might not know what anzo is even if I eat it.
- I think it's anzo. - I think it's anzo.
- It's right.
- I think it's anzo. - It's right for you, Riko.
- Really? - Yeah.
But it was really fun.
The Tsubaki Factory.
For a long time.
I've been thinking about it a lot lately.
Tsubaki is normal, but...
I think it's very different.
There are a lot of people who have a normal sense of it.
- Yeah. - I mean, everyone's pretty...
- It's like a very common sense of it. - Yeah.
- Ah, normal, right? - Yeah.
I think we're all weird.
- Yeah. - Isn't Tsubaki really weird?
What's up with Tsubaki?
- You're right. - Aren't the people who collected it amazing?
- There's a lot of people, right? - Yeah.
- Everyone has their own personality. - Yeah.
- It's interesting. I didn't know it was made like this for a long time. - Yeah, me too.
- Did you eat it normally? - What? I ate it normally.
- What do you dip it in? - I don't know.
- You don't know, do you? - What? Scone?
- Scone? - You said scone.
- Is it maple? - Let me taste it.
- Is it black honey? Oh, it's matcha. Matcha is good too. It's the best.
- I'm so nervous about eating it. - But I think foreign people will come here, too.
- Everyone's eating it without thinking about it.
- It's good. - I didn't think it would last this long.
- I didn't even think I'd graduate one day. - Yeah.
- I didn't realize I'd been doing it for 10 years. - Yeah.
- Of course, it has a lot of content. - Yeah.
- But it went by so fast. - Yeah.
- I was a trainee for about 3 years. - Yeah.
- For about 2 and a half years. - Yeah.
- I felt like I'd been doing it for a long time. - Yeah.
- I wonder if that's true. - I've been doing it for 2 years.
- I haven't changed at all. - Because it's morning?
- No, it has nothing to do with the morning. I feel like I'm back in the ballet club. - What?
- I'm back in the first week. - Really? - Yeah.
- Recently, I've been able to enjoy one day at a time for the past few years.
- We were a star group in the beginning. - Yeah.
- We did things every day. - Yeah.
- We were chased. - We were chased.
We were chased but we didn't catch up.
I think we were chased this much.
- Yeah. - I thought it would end.
- We were chased too much. - Yeah.
- When we were in need. - Yeah.
- We couldn't do it. - We thought we couldn't do our major debut.
- We weren't conscious of our major debut. - Yeah.
- We didn't even think about it. - Yeah.
- We were like "Let's do our best not to get scolded today". - Yeah.
- We got scolded every day. - Yeah.
- I think we have it now because of that. - Yeah.
- I think it's amazing for juniors. - Yeah, I think it's amazing.
- I'm in first year of high school now. - Yeah.
- I started playing Tsubaki in first year of high school. - Yeah.
- Isn't it the same? - Yeah.
- I couldn't do it like that. - Yeah.
- It's amazing. - Yeah.
- I think you're mentally strong. - Yeah.
- I remember when we did our major debut. - Yeah.
- We were here. - Yeah.
- We were. - Chinzansou.
- Yeah. - We all came from members. - Yeah.
- We came. - Major debut.
- I haven't been here since then. - Me too.
- It's hard to come here. - Yeah.
- But that day...
- What did we do? - I was really nervous.
- Yeah, I was really nervous. - Yeah.
- Especially... - Like interviews and stuff.
- Leaders... - Yeah.
- They might not talk on behalf of us. - Yeah.
- I was really nervous. - Yeah.
- It's amazing to be a leader. - Yeah.
- I didn't think I'd do this much. - Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Because I'm not a leader type at all.
- Yeah. - It was pretty hard every day.
- But if there's someone who says "leader type" right away, then I think it's okay because that person is the leader because of the word "leader type" that you say now .
- Yeah. - At first, I was like this too, so I really wanted to be a leader, but especially for the first year or two.
- Especially when I was in the indies. - Yeah. - Well, everyone was quiet. - Yeah.
- But every day of the year... - Yeah. - Ah, being a leader is hard. But I really respect you.
- If it was me, I think my heart would have broken many times. - Yeah. - In places we don't know.
- No, but you've been with me, haven't you? - Yeah. - I don't think I've been with you. - Yeah, you're right. - Yeah. - I thought I'd give up. - It must have been hard. - I've done it many times. - It's amazing.
- No, but like, at first... - Yeah. - Well, it's still like that now, but you're the oldest and you're the leader. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But it's not like that at all...
- You know, you're not usually like that at all. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But like a family member... - But you used to be a hecomysian type of kid, right? - I'm a hecomysian and I'm also a swedish. - Yeah. - So I was really worried about how to deal with it. - Yeah.
- But... - Yeah. - Like, as you do it... - Yeah. - I think you can just be yourself. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But now it's a little easier. - Yeah. - Yeah, I wonder how it'll turn out... Like, Riko is the leader and I'm Tsubaki.
- And we'll graduate together with Riko. - Yeah.
Like, I wonder how Tsubaki will turn out in the future.
- I'm looking forward to it, but I can't imagine it at all. - I'm looking forward to it.
- Yeah. - Like, the members are completely different from when we were in the final match.
- Yeah. - I wonder how it'll turn out. - Yeah.
- I want to graduate. - I'm looking forward to it, too. - Yeah.
- Like, I want to go see a live show and graduate. - Yeah.
- Let's go. - Yeah, let's go.
- Like, you know... - Yeah.
- We get some memorable parts in our songs. - Yeah.
- Riko gets really memorable parts in her dancing and dancing alone. - Yeah.
- I think everyone will say that, honestly, looking at the members now. - Yeah.
- But I'm really looking forward to it and wondering how it'll turn out. - Yeah, I wonder who will do it for me.
- I don't want it to be too easy for me. - Yeah.
- It's been eight years, so I don't want it to be too easy for me. - Yeah.
- But I don't think it'll be too easy for you. - No.
- I don't know who will do it for me. - Yeah.
- Look at me, I'm like a bear. - Yeah.
- I'm like a wild bear. - Yeah.
- It's nice to do it with a dancing partner these days. - Maybe it's because we're tall.
- Our hair is fluttering. - Yeah, but...
- The three of us, Maopin and... - Maopin and... - Yeah, yeah.
- Isn't it a lot? - It's a lot. - Right?
- So I think the dance teacher is really reliant on us. - Yeah.
- So I think the dance teacher is really reliant on us. - Yeah, with our guts...
- With our guts, we sometimes join you two. - Yeah.
- But I think dancing will probably disappear from our lives. - Yeah, from now on.
- Yeah, because it's a song. - Yeah.
- But you two actually talked about what you wanted to do. - Yeah, we talked about it.
- How long ago was it? - I heard Yumi was graduating at the end of last year.
- Oh, yeah. - And...
- You two actually talked about it... - After I graduated this year. - Yeah.
- When you two talked about it at the end of last year... - Yeah.
- You went to a cafe because you thought you could go between work and work. - Yeah, we did.
- And you walked for about an hour to get to work. - Yeah, we did.
- We went to a park and stuff. - Yeah, we went to a park and stuff.
- We got lost in the park and stuff. - Yeah.
- It was fun. - Yeah, it was fun.
- It's hard to go to a park at this age, isn't it? - Yeah, it's hard to go to a park.
- We said, "We still have time." - Yeah.
- Yeah.
- We also... - We also thought about it.
- We all went to work together for our next job. - Yeah.
- We got lost in our work places. - Yeah, we did.
- We were like, "What if someone finds out about us?" - Yeah.
- We didn't think about it, but... - Yeah.
- When we announced it to the members... - Yeah.
- The one who cried the most... - Yeah, I was surprised.
- The one who cried the most... - I was surprised, too.
- Saori. - Saori cried so much.
- Saori doesn't usually cry. - Yeah.
- I was surprised. I didn't know she cried this much. - Yeah.
She's not the type of person who cries in the beginning of a concert.
- Yeah. - She's like...
- She cried like this. - She was cute. - She was crying, but quietly.
- Surprisingly, Saori cried the most. - Yeah. - She was cute. - She was strong. - She was happy.
- She was crying like a child. - Yeah. - Yeah. - She was cute. - I was surprised.
- It was unexpected. - Yeah. - I agree. - Kiso - chan, too.
- I wonder if she cried. - She's not crying. - Yeah.
- I see. - I was surprised, but it wasn't like she was crying.
- Yeah. - She looked like she was in a state of mind.
- I was surprised, too. - The day before I told you all about it...
- I was surprised, too. - I was told about it.
- I was surprised, too. - I stayed with them in a taxi on my way home.
- I was talking about my daily life. - Yeah.
- All of a sudden... - Yeah.
- I was told about it. - Yeah.
- I couldn't say anything. - Yeah.
- That's how it was. - Yeah.
- I think it's the same for fans, too. - Yeah.
- I don't think you two graduated at the same time. - Yeah.
- I really couldn't say anything. - Yeah.
- I was like, "Should I say something?" - Yeah.
- I was like, "Is it different for me?" - Yeah.
- I couldn't say, "Oh, I see." - Yeah.
- Yeah.
- I think it was a few months before I graduated. - Yeah.
- I haven't felt it yet. - Yeah.
- Kiki-chan's graduation was so fast. - Yeah.
- It's crazy. - Yeah.
- But Ami was surprised, too. - Yeah, I think so.
- I think they were both surprised. - Yeah.
- If it's just one person, you might think "Oh, I see."
- Yeah. - But don't you think "What?"
- Yeah. - I think I'd be surprised, too.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- It's unexpected, isn't it? - Yeah.
- I don't think there were two people who graduated at the same time in the past ten years. - Yeah.
- Yeah.
- What do you think? At first, you talked to the company, right? - Yeah.
- And then you said "I want to graduate, too." - Yeah.
- What did you think at that time? - I was surprised.
- When I asked you, right? - Yeah.
- First of all, I was surprised when I heard you graduated. - Yeah.
- Because you thought you were the first one. - Yeah.
- You thought so, too, didn't you? - Yeah.
- How did you feel about it? - I...
- Especially? - Yeah.
- I often played with you in private. - Yeah.
- Did you talk about your future? - Yeah, we did.
- I heard you made up your mind. - Yeah.
- So I thought I'd send you first and then graduate. - Yeah.
- I didn't think about it. - Yeah.
- I definitely thought I was the first one to graduate as a group. - Yeah.
- When you said you wanted to graduate, - Yeah.
I was like "What?!"
My surprise was bigger than yours at that time.
Kiki is graduating, which means I'm not the first one.
I was surprised and told my manager.
What? You knew it, didn't you?
You knew I wasn't the first one, didn't you?
I didn't know there were other members who were thinking about graduating.
First of all, I was surprised and told my manager.
You knew it, didn't you?
I didn't think about it at all.
It's not like I was surprised, but we've been members for eight years.
I think it's different for everyone.
I thought you were the best.
I thought you were the first one.
I was surprised and told my manager.
But I think you started thinking about it first.
I think it's about the same.
I was surprised, too.
There weren't many graduates until now.
So I thought it might overlap.
There were many members who have been around for a long time.
But I said it's okay.
I think you started thinking about it first when you were five years old.
I didn't know.
I think it was about a month ago.
I think you started thinking about it first.
Did you like it?
Yeah, of course.
It's an honor for me.
The leader agreed with me.
To be honest, there might be people who want to see each and every last one of us.
It was difficult at first, but I thought about it a lot.
For example, it's more reliable than being gone every few months.
The other members will lead you.
It's delicious.
Is it good?
It's green tea, so you can eat it for a long time.
It's addictive.
I've never seen it before.
This and marimo.
For the past eight years, I've had a lot of complaints about each of the members.
I've always thought that I couldn't say anything to Riko and Sorachan.
I don't have a word sense or anything like that.
I was laughing at Marimo.
I'm not trying to make you laugh.
I'm the kind of person who's always trying to make people laugh.
So...
I'm really jealous of people who come out naturally.
Seriously, I saw Riko and Kisora like that.
Like that.
Wow, I can't beat you.
Because people who come out naturally are amazing.
Really.
Thank you.
But I...
If it wasn't for Yume's comment, I think Tsubaki would have been in trouble.
Really?
I really think so.
Especially recently.
It's been a while, hasn't it?
I don't think there was a comment like "Tsukkomi Kyara".
I don't think so.
After "Ikutsuba" started, I had more opportunities to do variety work.
My character was established again.
Certainly.
Until about a year before "Ikutsuba" started, I still wanted to be funny.
There was a time when I wanted to do variety work alone.
Even among Tsubaki.
I thought it would never be Tsukkomi.
Because I was doing a gag.
I think I did a lot of various things.
For eight years.
Did you really want to be funny?
No.
I don't know.
When I was in elementary school, I was an amateur character.
But being an amateur in a class is not funny at all.
It's not funny because it's a class.
Like impersonating a teacher.
So I calmed down.
After all, this member who lets me Tsukkomi was the most comfortable for me in the end.
I was really careful in the end.
Well, I still have it, Tsubaki.
I think I was careful.
But I understand.
I'm relieved to see everyone's faces.
That's why I'm a little scared of the future.
Yeah, that's really it.
Because it's been eight years and it's suddenly gone.
Yeah.
I wonder what it's like.
That's right.
You know, everyone in Tsubaki...
They'll Tsukkomi me if I do something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If there's really no one like that, I'll be lonely.
Yeah, I wonder what it's like.
I'm scared, I'm scared.
Yeah.
It's embarrassing.
Absolutely.
I see.
People who are going to do something together are almost new people.
Yeah.
That's amazing, when you think about it that way.
Yeah.
For example, let's say I do something out of the blue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because if you let me do something like that, it's really awkward.
It's easier for me to get Tsukkomi.
Yeah.
I wonder if we can do it well with people we don't know.
It's scary, isn't it?
Yeah.
But I see, in the future...
In the future...
But I...
What do you want to do?
I want to sing.
Yeah.
I want to sing and sing.
The reason I joined H.A.L.L.E. Project is...
Yeah.
First of all, it's because I like singing.
I have a memory of writing an essay or something like that.
I like singing.
That's where it starts.
After all...
Well...
I've been doing a lot of Tsubaki Factory activities.
More than a hundred.
I'm so satisfied that I spill it.
I can only do what I'm satisfied with.
Let me...
I didn't get it, but I was very satisfied with it.
For all activities.
I have a self that I want to sing more.
After all, I think there was a good group in the group.
Each 11 people, 12 people, 9 people, 6 people have voices and one song comes to life.
But,
After all, one live is one and a half hours or two hours.
I want to keep singing alone.
I've had that somewhere.
It's like singing and singing and singing is not enough.
So from now on...
Anyway...
I want to make my life a singing life.
Well, I move my body, too.
Huh? Are you going to continue?
Yeah, I'm going to continue my fitness-like stuff, too.
Well, anyway...
I want to express myself with music.
I want to live.
You can live.
I'm sure you do.
You're good at singing, too.
Well...
You wrote and composed the song for the birthday event.
Oh, the song, too.
Are you going to do that, too?
Making songs and stuff like that.
Wow, how do you do that?
No, there are a lot of people in the world who make songs.
Are there people like that? We're singing, too.
Yeah, it's really amazing.
Yeah.
But you know...
I thought it was really amazing.
That's why I was able to come all the way to Tsubaki.
I think there are a lot of emotions and happy feelings that I've come to know.
I think I can sing a song that only I can sing.
Well, that's what everyone does.
That's what everyone does.
I think I can sing it.
I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, I want to keep singing.
Yeah.
I've been wanting to sing for people for four or five years now.
I wanted to sing good songs, especially when I was in my teens.
I wanted people to think I'm cool when I sing.
I wanted to show myself like this, but there were a lot of things that saved me from music while I was doing this kind of activity.
I want to be someone who can provide that music by listening to my favorite music every day.
That's why I want to sing.
I'm looking forward to it.
I want to go see it.
Let's go together.
Let's go where we can go together.
I like your song, so I'm looking forward to it.
I'll do my best.
The first time I decided to graduate was last year.
Was it last year?
When I did my second Japan Budokan performance.
Last year.
May 16th.
When I was standing on the stage and looking at the scenery from the stage, I thought I had done my best as an idol.
At that time, there was something like an interview in the summer.
At that time, I decided to go to the company.
I want to do acting work in the future.
The reason I fell in love with acting was because of the stage I performed on during my first Haro Pro training camp.
There was a stage called "Tropical Boys".
We all made it up.
It's still like that now.
The stage...
We're only together for a certain period of time.
But there's a lot of bond there.
It deepens, doesn't it? During rehearsal.
Even though I'm only in it a little bit, I cried a lot last week.
It's amazing. I'm sad. I don't want to be apart from everyone.
That's what I thought.
I thought that was a great thing about the stage.
I really like being able to be different.
It's just getting started, but I'd like to study and do it as I go.
It's nice to be different. I feel that a lot about singing and acting.
You can live a different life.
That's one of the charms of singing and acting.
Do you have anything you want to say to these members?
In many ways, it's different for each of you.
For example, for nine of you.
Each of you has something you want to say to nine of you.
For the next leader.
Don't be too hard on yourself. I want you to do it your own way.
I have a lot of thoughts about it.
What you say is absolutely right.
You're the only leader I know of in the Tsubaki Factory.
That's not true.
I was able to do my best because of you all.
That's amazing.
It was pretty tough for me in 2018 and 2019.
Mentally.
We used to hang out with Yume a lot, you know, in our private time.
That saved me a lot.
Really?
Like maid kissers?
Like Maopin and Sunny?
Wow, I see.
As for me, I haven't noticed it at all and I'm not conscious of it.
But I thought it was important.
You know, the music you listen to is quite different from the members'.
That's right.
As for me, I don't know much about K-pop and I don't have enough study experience.
So I think I have to study it.
I think the blues and funk elements you listen to are very much alive in Tsubaki's songs.
For example, the feeling of "Tears of Wide Square Station" in "Tears of Wide Square Station".
I hope there will be at least one person who listens to such music.
You know, music changes what comes out.
So I've been looking for someone who can input such a wide range of genres.
To be honest, I don't know who it is yet.
Oh, I see.
But isn't it Runo who's been talking about music lately?
That's right.
I'm not sure if Runo understands me or if he understands my feelings.
He loves music.
That's right. He's amazing.
But of course, we don't want you to imitate us.
Rather than imitating us, I'd like you to express yourself as much as you can in that child.
When I first thought about the good points of a song, I was wondering if there was anyone else who could listen to it a little more.
I see. Maybe it's a mixed generation.
That's right.
It's very funky.
That funk vibe...
Do you do all of your songs fake?
Not all of them.
I don't do all of them.
Not all of them.
There was only Maopin.
There was only Kiki.
I don't do all of them.
That's wrong.
Almost all of them.
I haven't done fake music for four or five years.
Well, I haven't done it for eight years.
It took me about six years.
Recently, I finally understood the meaning of it.
At first, I wanted to sing it cool and stand out.
I wanted to raise the volume of the microphone the most.
But I realized that it wasn't like that.
I probably wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't done it.
Sometimes I think I'm still young.
That's right.
I want you to see your solo part.
It's very important for me.
But it's also important for me to make songs as a team.
I learned it in this team.
Each team has its own charm and cuteness.
I want you to see each team's position and importance as a team.
I have to tell you about it.
I see.
We talked about it while eating dessert.
First of all, it was delicious.
It was delicious.
I don't usually eat this much.
I tasted a lot of dessert.
I usually eat it all at once, but I tasted it.
I ate it one bite at a time.
I'm going to focus on eating from now on and talk to you.
Well, it's the first time we've announced our graduation and then we can talk like this in front of the camera.
It was only for a little while, but I'm glad we were able to tell you about it.
It was fun.
Then we will continue to eat.
Thank you very much.
It's "minisugo".
"Minisugo".
Yes. Actually, it was there.
Actually, it was there.
Do you want to eat "minicorn"?
"Minicorn" is delicious.
What do you want to eat?
This? Chocolate?
No, it's okay.
What do you want to eat?
This?
No, it's okay.
How many do you want to eat?
What are you doing here?
I'm here to play.
How about you?
I'm going to go where I feel like I can get on.
How "minisugo" is?
"Happysgo" is also "saitashu".
I can't lose to you.
Who are you talking to?
I can't.
Why?
I'm nervous.
It was a deep conversation.
Really?
I asked "minicorn".
I want to eat this.
You want to eat "minicorn", don't you?
I want to eat "minicorn".
This is really delicious.
It's hot.
It's awesome.
It's like evergreen.
You are right.
It's a pine cone.
What?
It's a pine cone.
It's like a bird.
It's a bird.
It's big.
But it's soft.